Arnold Buckley: The excuse is that some white dude got respect for taking on an Indian chief in this area. more likely the case is that the Indian asked the man what happened to the Oak tree on his property and the hundreds of others these colonials leveled as soon as they came.
Cougar Face: This seal is just another sign of the disrespect of the Oneida people that had faced from early on by the early settlers. its both incredible and shameful that a seal with this image is still being used. one forgets that in the early years of coexisting bullying on the part of Whites was used to get them to move from an area that someone could then claim for their own.
AB: The village of Westboro is embarrassed by this renewed focus of this seal that could only have been achieved through social media. kudos to all that tweeted and saw this seal for what it is as another governmental seal of White supremacy. We must not forget that many Southern seals once had the image of a White rooster to subliminally illustrate White power and support for segregation.
CF: What is the first image one thinks about given this nations history against aborigines when they see a image such as this seal. I be sure to wager it is not a wrestling match as local redneck up in new York would suggest. No sir ri Bob. I am calling for an immediate dissolution of this seal by the village and most times when I call the village I am put on hold.
AB: Only a far away rural area like this would think a seal of this portrayal is acceptable. Native Americans were quickly driven West or into Canada by folks ancestors in this region and likely they foster some pride in this much like southerners have for the Stars and bars of the Confederacy.
CF: Actually, Oneida Indians tried to get this seal altered or created differently in a more equal image back in the late nineties. It didn't work and what we have instead was the image being retained and defended for some time never really making national news until recently. Why would anyone think an image like this of somebody being throw into the ground is worthy of a village seal
AB: Its upstate New York man. There is not much difference between Upstate New York and Southern Indiana, Western Tennessee, or Southern Alabama. people just need to understand the mentality and this is what the people dig in this region. The subjugation of minorities and those they deem different.
CF: It must make you wonder how many other remote villages have had insulting,degrading, and humiliating images on seals over the years. most likely had the quick cognizance to change them as they seen how quickly society was changing and a need to adapt to sensitivities of others became the rule.
AB. Yea cougar I wouldn't be surprised if this region has had a high percentage of Indian mascots and degrading nicknames towards American Indians through the years. I will have to d a search and see how many Indian mascots of schools exist in this shitty area of America. Any news on changing this seal?
CF: there is pressure coming from all angles and I don't think the village will be able to skirt on this issue for long. This drawing is wicked and clearly is intended to show the subjugation of the Indian being a proud moment in the history of upstate New York.
AB As far as the drawing I will leave this discussion today with the drawing and awareness how bad it is. the surprising thing in my years of writing and covering comic strip art over the years is how few comic strips there had been even in the insensitive twenties of Native Americans. you would think the strips would be filled with native American caricatures as silly as the Cleveland Indian mascot logo. Aside from Popeye I never ran across any in these old strips and there had never been a comic strip featuring Native Americans. Imagine how badly they would of been portrayed eighty years ago in the Sunday funnies.
CF : I cant imagine it would of been any worse that what the village of Whitesboro. There is some correlation with the name of the city and logo that just stinks to high heaven and shows the hatred that has unabated all these years in the Northeast concerning Indians
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